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		<title>By: john eggirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>john eggirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well luckly most web developers I have spoken to are smart enough not to have paid this con-artist a cent! Dennis has got ONE goal to fill his back pocket with money. Foolishly he must have thought we where a good target - ( maybe go back to taking candy from children denis? )

BTW have you seen his work? - my 5 yr nephew is more creative and he obviously clearly lacks any programming skills at all.

&quot;Dennis has boundless enthusiasm and creativity and does end up pushing the limits at times&quot; Hahaha please come on - can you say &quot;sucker&quot;?!!

John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well luckly most web developers I have spoken to are smart enough not to have paid this con-artist a cent! Dennis has got ONE goal to fill his back pocket with money. Foolishly he must have thought we where a good target &#8211; ( maybe go back to taking candy from children denis? )</p>
<p>BTW have you seen his work? &#8211; my 5 yr nephew is more creative and he obviously clearly lacks any programming skills at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dennis has boundless enthusiasm and creativity and does end up pushing the limits at times&#8221; Hahaha please come on &#8211; can you say &#8220;sucker&#8221;?!!</p>
<p>John.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John 

I didn&#039;t get to say &quot;Hi&quot; at the PHPUG recently - far too hot in that room to linger! I hope you do well in your new role and thank you for introducing yourself here :)

Sarah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get to say &#8220;Hi&#8221; at the PHPUG recently &#8211; far too hot in that room to linger! I hope you do well in your new role and thank you for introducing yourself here <img src='http://www.itamer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sarah</p>
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		<title>By: John Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was working at Natcoll and closely associated with the PHPUG when WDANZ rolled out and some negative comments started rolling in. Like many, I had been keen on the concept of a web developers association but I too became a little sceptical in the early days. So how did I end up becoming its General Manager? It wasn&#039;t because the criticisms were wholly unjustified, but more that I came to understand Dennis&#039;s unique vision. Now, Dennis has boundless enthusiasm and creativity and does end up pushing the limits at times, so part of my job is to moderate his creativity while at the same time helping develop a lot of his really great ideas.
 
Having reflected over time on the name, the main problem I have is that the word &#039;association&#039; comes with a whole bunch of in-built expectations, not all of which match WDANZ&#039;s stated intentions. In essence WDANZ seeks to create relationships and services that provide real value to WDANZ members and the general business and Not-For-Profit community. Value to members still varies depending on what their needs are, however we hope to continue to roll out new services and partnerships throughout 2008 so that hopefully everyone can look back and say that their membership was really worthwhile.
 
While in some respects it&#039;s part value club, WDANZ is actually functioning as an association in that it&#039;s facilitating a lot of great interaction between people who later find that they can work with, help or teach each other. A major thrust this year is educating the general business public through seminars and books, so that the users of Web Developers services better understand how to work effectively with their web professional. The approach WDANZ has taken may not work for everybody, however if WDANZ can deliver value to our members I believe they&#039;ll stick around. I&#039;m not trying to answer all criticism; I just wanted to explain what WDANZ is actually trying to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was working at Natcoll and closely associated with the PHPUG when WDANZ rolled out and some negative comments started rolling in. Like many, I had been keen on the concept of a web developers association but I too became a little sceptical in the early days. So how did I end up becoming its General Manager? It wasn&#8217;t because the criticisms were wholly unjustified, but more that I came to understand Dennis&#8217;s unique vision. Now, Dennis has boundless enthusiasm and creativity and does end up pushing the limits at times, so part of my job is to moderate his creativity while at the same time helping develop a lot of his really great ideas.</p>
<p>Having reflected over time on the name, the main problem I have is that the word &#8216;association&#8217; comes with a whole bunch of in-built expectations, not all of which match WDANZ&#8217;s stated intentions. In essence WDANZ seeks to create relationships and services that provide real value to WDANZ members and the general business and Not-For-Profit community. Value to members still varies depending on what their needs are, however we hope to continue to roll out new services and partnerships throughout 2008 so that hopefully everyone can look back and say that their membership was really worthwhile.</p>
<p>While in some respects it&#8217;s part value club, WDANZ is actually functioning as an association in that it&#8217;s facilitating a lot of great interaction between people who later find that they can work with, help or teach each other. A major thrust this year is educating the general business public through seminars and books, so that the users of Web Developers services better understand how to work effectively with their web professional. The approach WDANZ has taken may not work for everybody, however if WDANZ can deliver value to our members I believe they&#8217;ll stick around. I&#8217;m not trying to answer all criticism; I just wanted to explain what WDANZ is actually trying to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah King</title>
		<link>http://www.itamer.com/wdanz/295/comment-page-1/#comment-29479</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got another fax from &lt;strong&gt;WDANZ&lt;/strong&gt; the other day, Dennis told me he&#039;d just bought a new list. Nonetheless he promptly removed me with a comment &quot;Your fax number is certainly out there!&quot;

Well, perhaps I know the source of the new list... we received a fax today from NZData or imagemarketing.co.nz and I rang to have our number removed. Well, whadyaknow, the ever polite and obliging &lt;strong&gt;Brendan Battles&lt;/strong&gt; answered the phone! He&#039;s selling data packs (including email and fax numbers) for New Zealand and Australian businesses and consumers.

So, email spam may be on the way out - he&#039;s just changed the media!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got another fax from <strong>WDANZ</strong> the other day, Dennis told me he&#8217;d just bought a new list. Nonetheless he promptly removed me with a comment &#8220;Your fax number is certainly out there!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, perhaps I know the source of the new list&#8230; we received a fax today from NZData or imagemarketing.co.nz and I rang to have our number removed. Well, whadyaknow, the ever polite and obliging <strong>Brendan Battles</strong> answered the phone! He&#8217;s selling data packs (including email and fax numbers) for New Zealand and Australian businesses and consumers.</p>
<p>So, email spam may be on the way out &#8211; he&#8217;s just changed the media!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a fast, personal, reply from Dennis which included
&lt;blockquote&gt;Good morning Sarah. Relax, we are not targetting you! Just drop us a note with your fax number and we will put your fax number on our DO NOT FAX list.

FYI
* Every business in the country will get at least one fax per year from WDANZ Sarah, sometimes more, basically whenever WDANZ runs events for the public in their region they will receive at the minimum one fax.

* Since November 2006, fax bureaus have proven to be THE most cost effective advertising for WDANZ events by a factor of 5:1 over all other forms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a fast, personal, reply from Dennis which included</p>
<blockquote><p>Good morning Sarah. Relax, we are not targetting you! Just drop us a note with your fax number and we will put your fax number on our DO NOT FAX list.</p>
<p>FYI<br />
* Every business in the country will get at least one fax per year from WDANZ Sarah, sometimes more, basically whenever WDANZ runs events for the public in their region they will receive at the minimum one fax.</p>
<p>* Since November 2006, fax bureaus have proven to be THE most cost effective advertising for WDANZ events by a factor of 5:1 over all other forms.</p></blockquote>
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